Why Are We Like This?
Making sense of people who don’t make sense, Why Are We Like This? is a podcast about human nature, pop culture, and the wonderfully strange ways people behave.
Hosted by a gay married couple with strong opinions and an endless curiosity about what makes people tick, Why Are We Like This? dives into movies, TV shows, celebrity moments, internet obsessions, social trends, and everyday quirks that shape our lives. Each week we break down the pop culture moments, questionable human behavior, and everyday oddities we can’t stop talking about—and the surprisingly relatable reasons behind them.
Part cultural commentary, part relationship banter, and part armchair anthropology, Why Are We Like This? explores the question at the heart of absurd trends, awkward interactions, and the collective obsession that begs to ask, Why Are We Like This?
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Nomi has been alluding to this episode for years now. If she's not talking about 90's Fashion, she's talking about her favorite 90's movies, or 90's music, or her life in San Francisco in... you guessed it... the 90's.
We chat about a few of our favorite things from the 90's, why it was so formative for us, and why a specific OC Housewife is a terrible person who deserves to suffer in a Ryan Murphy Netflix show.
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SPEAKER_01Hello. And thank you for calling AOL Movie Phone.
SPEAKER_00Oh, movie phone. Oh, movie phone. Is it still around? Or do they just not bother you because you can go on the internet?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Should we try to call it? Should we try right now? Okay. No, I'm just kidding. Um, okay, so what are we talking about today? Should I guess?
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, I'm gonna surprise you with today's topic. Okay. And our open is a clue. Oh.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Interesting. Um, we're going to talk about Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.
SPEAKER_01Uh no, but she's always a valid topic.
SPEAKER_00I I think so. Uh we're talking about We're talking about uh liquid death and how it's taken over uh the drink industry.
SPEAKER_01Oh my no, Robert.
SPEAKER_00Are we talking about Stop it?
SPEAKER_01You've got to let me give you clues. Otherwise, we will waste the entire podcast with you just guessing topic.
SPEAKER_00Give me another one.
SPEAKER_01I'm just looking at stuff around the house. It's of course. Okay. Um, let's see. It is an era.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01There were a lot of boys in this era. Oh, we're talking about the 90s. We're talking about the 90s and bands.
SPEAKER_00Like a movie phone boys and boy bands.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And guy lights.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I was such a boy band lover too from the very beginning. I loved New Kids on the Block. Loved. Like I had all the books, I had the dolls, I had the bed sheets, I had the pillows and blankets. Like I had all I even had a water bottle.
SPEAKER_01It was awful. I did not ever subscribe to the boy band craze. I love you, Jonathan Knight. No. Yes. I did think Jordan was cute. They were all cute in their own way. Joey McIntyre, though, grew up to be a piece of trade.
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SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna put that out there into the Ethernet.
SPEAKER_00And put it out there to his Ethernet.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, what about him in the heat with Sandra Bullock? He's wonderful. Melissa McCarthy. He's so good playing any kind of Boston dude. Wait, are we really talking about boy bands or just 90s and no, we're talking about the 90s because this is a follow-up to our 80s decade podcast. And this is the 90s, and we just did uh the podcast with Patricia, who is a 90s supermodel. So I thought let's follow up with uh uh a podcast about one of my favorite decades, uh the 90s.
SPEAKER_00We did talk about 90s recently with your sister. Kind of on a podcast or we touched on it a little bit, but I think it was 90s specific, like music and movies. You guys were both talking about how much you liked certain things.
SPEAKER_01Well, I don't think anybody listened to that episode, so we're gonna talk about the 90s right now.
SPEAKER_00That's the spirit. No one listened to that. Well, I'll tell you, I did not enjoy the 90s at all. What? No, I really didn't know why. Because I was in junior high through high school, and it was a really uncomfortable, formative like life experience where I just didn't really like things around me, with the exception of like Nickelodeon, the Disney Channel, and video games.
SPEAKER_01That's a millennial.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Oh, okay. I'm I'm fine with that then. That's okay. That's just how you are. That's that's how I is.
SPEAKER_01That's how you is. Um well the ninety- I came of age in the nineties.
SPEAKER_00I What is came of age? Like that's when you became 18, or that's when you decided you were a person.
SPEAKER_01I think it's when I developed my sense of like self-awareness. Okay. It's like when when I became self-aware.
SPEAKER_00I put you on the spot with that. I've just I've heard that phrase before, and I just I I wasn't sure like how would you define coming of age?
SPEAKER_01Because you hear like coming of age stories and it's well, it's just basically I think it's a it's a moment in one's life where you realize you kind of grew up. You started to see the world through adult eyes for the first time, you experienced those big moments in life for the first time, you got your heart broken for the first time, you lost your virginity, first kiss.
SPEAKER_00I love how you go to virginity like right away.
SPEAKER_01I'm like the first kiss. What? Because you're fucking raining.
SPEAKER_00You get blown for the first time drops, you find your first glory hole.
SPEAKER_01Coming of age. You know, you see your porn for the first time.
SPEAKER_00Well, the gay experience is a little bit different.
SPEAKER_01The gay experience is very different than the hetero experience.
SPEAKER_00And that's because there are different experiences that are part of that coming of age. Like it's a different process. You have to go through a few more things than maybe our straight counterparts do.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yeah. Well, the 90s was my entire like adolescence. I was like, I think I turned 13 in 1990.
SPEAKER_00Hmm. Okay.
SPEAKER_01And then so I was 23 in 2000. So it was like my entire, it was like my junior high, my high school, and then my early um twenties.
SPEAKER_00And you're a little bit older than I am. Not by much.
SPEAKER_01By like six years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I'm definitely Gen X.
SPEAKER_00Enough to have a different experience during the 90s than I did.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00For sure.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, I had I think I had much more of an adult experience because I was out of high school by the by 95. I, you know, I was already doing a lot of the things that I'm doing today. I started doing between 95 and 97. I started doing drag modeling and I went to cosmetology school.
SPEAKER_00Drag modeling.
SPEAKER_01Drag modeling.
SPEAKER_00Um that's a that's accurate. And I think for me, I mean performing too. I perpetuated like the childhood as long as I could because that was a safe space for me. Um having that like infantilized personality allowed me to feel comfortable in situations where I didn't feel comfortable as I was trying to figure out who the fuck I was.
SPEAKER_01But we're talking about the 90s. Oh, the nineties.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry, therapist.
SPEAKER_01Hello, hi. Um back. There were things that I did like about the 90s. That's what are some of the things that pop into you because my mind is like that YouTube video where it's like retro commercials from the 80s and 90s. Like, that's the my how my memory flashes on the 90s. It's like gushers and oatmeal squirters and squirrel squirk squigglers. I don't think that's what they were called. What is you do the oatmeal with the jelly thing? You get the oatmeal with the gut and the with the jelly. Oh, we have we have the Cosby show and and pudding.
SPEAKER_00Are those things that you liked, or you just talk about things about the 90s that you remember?
SPEAKER_01No, the things that like I remember the things that I remember. Like, what do I like about the 90s? Yeah, what's the supermodel the supermodel era? Yeah. Um, I like the music of the 90s. I think music was still pretty much rocking in the 90s.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um, I the fashion definitely got a lot better in the 90s than than in the 80s. And um don't forget movies. We had great movies about the 80s in the 90s, like The Wedding Singer.
SPEAKER_00That's pretty great.
SPEAKER_01It's so meta man. So oh clueless. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like you gotta mention clueless in every class episode.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean 90s. I mean, come on, this is like Gen X iconic history. So And I, by the way, I I actually went to high school with Alicia Silverstone. You're so funny.
SPEAKER_00You like mention things casually about? I suppose that there are people who haven't heard past episodes who didn't know that already.
SPEAKER_01Probably not. I mean, she doesn't know that.
SPEAKER_00Alicia Silverstone does not listen to our podcast.
SPEAKER_01She does not listen to our podcast. Um that's why I said she doesn't know that.
SPEAKER_00She doesn't know that you went to high school.
SPEAKER_01She was a year ahead of me. I think we had one class together. Because honestly, you there there really isn't a lot of mixing of the classes, right? Like freshmen and sophomore, unless you're getting held back for something.
SPEAKER_00So when you guys were in class together, you didn't go up to her and be like, as Ev.
SPEAKER_01She wasn't, no, because that was before I know.
SPEAKER_00Clueless came out. This is early 90s. Just picturing you like quoting to her a movie that didn't exist yet.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that could you imagine?
SPEAKER_00I could. That's why I said it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, but if you guys want another little piece of gossip in the movie Clueless, when she says um Haitians instead of Haitians, this isn't saying anything good about our school. Good old Sam Mateo High.
SPEAKER_00You guys, okay, so I was on set and she was saying this line, but she said it wrong, but they kept it.
SPEAKER_01You don't know. So anyway, that was how she thought that that word was pronounced when she saw it in the script. But this is not my trivia, this is just like IMDB trivia, which I think is just I think it's cute and it's anecdotal. But what's interesting is that she showed up as a client at the first salon that I started working at when I moved back to LA in 2001.
SPEAKER_00That's cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then another small world tidbit is when I was in in high school with Elizabeth at San Mateo High. Um, my this girl that I went to elementary school with for like, I don't know, three out of whatever many years are in elementary school in Wichita, Kansas. Uh, that's a whole other podcast. Um, sophomore year showed up at San Mateo High and then was like, saw my picture in the yearbook and then started asking around about me. And I was just like, uh, what? Because my friend Emily like turns to me in French class one day and she's just like, Hey, do you know this girl named Monica Lay? And I was like, Oh, what? Oh, what are you what how do you know that name? Like, how does that name exist in your universe? Like, that's from my like far beyond past that I don't want, like, that's my valley of the dolls that I will not acknowledge I was in. Like, how do you know that name? And she's like, Oh yeah, well, she's here and she saw your picture and she's asking around. And I was like, damn it, because you know, high school was really good for me, especially in San Francisco. So I would, I was petrified that she was gonna come in and start telling everybody that I was like teased and bullied for being gay, and that she was going to take what had turned into a finally a good school experience and like soil it with the past from my experience with these fucking hillbillies in this fucking flyover state. That was the first thing that went through my mind. And it must have read because my friend said, You look like you're in dysfunction junction right now. You look like you're in it right now. I don't know what to do. But it wasn't the case. It wasn't the case. And I finally ran into her like maybe a week after that conversation, and we were just walking down the hallway, and I saw her coming, and I was just like, Monica, and she was like, Oh my god, Jared, hi, how are you? And I was like, Oh yeah, I'm great. Sounds just like remember when you call me a faggot and a gaylord? So anyway, I kicked her in the cunt and then went about my business.
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the Mr. and Mishes Show, the number one leading Alicia Silverstone connected story podcast uh in the nation.
SPEAKER_01You made me spit my water on all my nose.
SPEAKER_02No, you made me ink.
SPEAKER_01You made me tall up here. Uh Diego I'll use my cafe. No, I won't do that. Anyway, um, so getting back to the 90s, I loved the gushers.
unknownOh my god.
SPEAKER_01What are we doing? I don't know, but we're we're 12 minutes in and we've got to get some content.
SPEAKER_00Okay, let me talk about my 90s experience for a while because it feels like you're flying, you're flying somewhere else. Um, so in the 90s, Nickelodeon was in its heyday. I watched that a lot. That was things like the Nick Tunes. A lot of millennials watched Nickelodeon. Doug, Renan Stimpy. Um those were amazing shows. I loved all of that.
SPEAKER_01You got Nick Jr.
SPEAKER_00and Snick. Snick. Saturday Night Nickelodeon was the first time that I remember uh programming specifically for kids on the weekend, and it was such a huge moment to be able to take ownership of something.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever watch Saturday morning cartoons?
SPEAKER_00No, in the evening, babe. Oh, oh, in the evening. Because evening prietime TV was always for parents or for families if they allowed you to watch TV with them, like a specific shows. This was the first time that there were shows made for kids at night, and it was really cool.
SPEAKER_01Um and then Disney Channel was so much of my 90s because it was everything that I loved about entertainment and animation and movies and but when we first met, I remember having to ride around in your stepdad's Hummer and listen to the fucking Disney XM station for Madison.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's 2000s Disney for sure. Yeah. That's they they definitely took a role.
SPEAKER_01That was that was the beginning of the end.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and I, like many uh teenage girls, was obsessed with boy bands during the 90s. I loved, loved uh uh InSync was my my choice out of like all of them during that time because there were a lot. There was InSync InSync Backstreet Boys 98 Degrees Kids on the Block. Was O Town was one of them?
SPEAKER_01O Town, 98 Degrees.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But InSync was my number one. I loved it. I thought their music was so cute. And I didn't think they were cute. I wasn't like obsessed with them. I just that stands for another bat creation. Yeah. I just I just liked it. It was real fun. There was some fun music when I was in high school. It was InSync and Backstreet Boys were always battling out. Brittany Spears was battling with Christina Aguilera at the time.
SPEAKER_01The Britney X Dina War. Yeah, I loved it just like Coca-Cola and Pepsi.
SPEAKER_00And you got to watch it live happen on TRL every day so you could see who was like the most popular every day after school. It was so fun.
SPEAKER_01Every time I see that video of Britney chewing gum and talking about how much she loves Pepsi, I'm like, girl, you're talking about cocaine right now. Because you are clearly on it. I don't remember that. Well, cocaine was still good in the 90s, so I liked that. I remember that. Um, and we had Britney Spears, and no one thought that she was like an AI or uh an imposter, so I liked that. We didn't have the noise of social media, so I liked that.
SPEAKER_00Um the internet was just starting.
SPEAKER_01The internet was just starting. It took like 30, 35 minutes to download like one picture. So most of us were in the chat rooms hooking up blind.
SPEAKER_00It was cool to get um get started on the internet. Like you sign in and you get your email and it tells you that you have mail, and that's that's neat. And being able to go to like different websites. I used to make lists of websites that I wanted to visit when I went to my uncle's house to babysit because we didn't have the internet. Yeah. So I'd be like, oh, I I'm gonna go to McDonald's.com, I'm gonna go to uh nintendo.com. Like I wanted to go to all these websites to see what they did. I it's so weird. It's weird that I made a list for it. Do you remember what your first screen name was?
SPEAKER_01HighlightGuy.
SPEAKER_00That was your first one?
SPEAKER_01H-I-L-I-T-E-G-U-Y.
SPEAKER_00You had that for a long time. You had that when we were still together, like when we first met.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was highlightguy at ao l.com. I think it's actually still, I think it's still an email address, but I haven't logged into AOL in I think since the year we met.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's find out. Those of you listening, please send emails and inquiries to highlightguy at aol.com.
SPEAKER_01How will I get them? How will I get them?
SPEAKER_00Email for ordering.
SPEAKER_01You guys can email um hello at mr and misses dot show screenshots of you emailing highlightguy at aol.com saying that your email's been sent. And then if I get an email, then I will log on to AOL and I will check the email. But I love it. I mean, hello.
SPEAKER_00I don't think AOL is even around anymore. I don't think you can sign on to it.
SPEAKER_01Well, I remember you needed a disc um in 1995. Uh it was outrageously expensive because not only did you have to pay for the disc, but you had to like buy these like blocks of internet, and then you had to pay per minute for the phone line. Because this was also back at a time where we still had like long distance providers like MCI and shit like that. MCI. And you got charged by the minute on your phone bill for every minute that you were on the internet, in addition to what you paid to get the DVD and that whatever chunk of internet.
SPEAKER_00So crazy.
SPEAKER_01It was ridiculous. But it went down really fast, and then I remember it was like unlimited for $24.95 a month.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, once they figured it out.
SPEAKER_01And then everyone's like, no, the internet should be free, and now we have to deal with fucking advertisements everywhere.
SPEAKER_00Oh, babe, we were always gonna deal with advertisements. Media does not exist unless there's an opportunity to sell for it, to make money off of it.
SPEAKER_01So the 90s. Oh, so I was gonna say in the 90s. Wait, I was gonna talk about my screen name.
SPEAKER_00My screen name boxy, the thing. Those all exist now. They're all the same. Okay, so I didn't set up the internet because I didn't I couldn't figure it out.
SPEAKER_01No, that was my generation.
SPEAKER_00But um no. So I came home from school one day and my uncle and my stepfather.
SPEAKER_01Oh, are we gonna have to pull out the doll for this?
SPEAKER_00No, no. Um they they set up the internet for us and they said, Oh, we we got you all set up, you're all ready to go. They chose my screen name for me, uh, and it was Hugh Hef1. Like Hugh Hefner.
SPEAKER_01Like Hugh Hef. We get Yes.
SPEAKER_00Well, I had to say that because I didn't know it at first.
SPEAKER_01Well, at that age, how old were you?
SPEAKER_00Uh 17.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_00But I also wasn't reading Playboy, I didn't know who Hugh Hefner was. Anyway, um so it's so weird.
SPEAKER_01Like you have such a completely different like rate of exposure than I do. Like when I was 17, I knew who Hugh Hefner was. I knew who Bob Guccioni of Penthouse was, I knew who Larry Flint of Hustler was.
SPEAKER_00No. Um, but uh apparently they chose that for me because I liked walking around in a robe.
SPEAKER_01Or yeah, a robe or a towel.
SPEAKER_00No, it was a robe specifically, right? No, it was a robe. I I had a silk robe that I wore around because it was really comfortable, but still.
SPEAKER_01I had a silk robe that I wore around when I was like uh junior high, high school age that my parents brought back from China.
SPEAKER_00Right, because we're cool, but apparently that means that I'm human.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, you remember we were watching um old episodes of The Real Housewives of Orange County the other night? I will find this clip and I will post it. It was an old shot of Vicky in the car with her daughter Brianna talking to someone on the phone who is of Asian descent and started talking to them. Don't repeat it. And like that, you know, when people imitate that that Asian accent and they throw like the ching chong. Right. And then her daughter looks at her like, what are you doing? And then her response was to look at her daughter and say, What? They talk like that. It's chicken chicken Chinaman. And you and I both looked at each other and our jaws dropped, and we're like, What the fuck was that? Like, how did she even get past that? Can you imagine if she had said that or someone on today's franchise had said that? You can't say that no, you would have been canceled. But it also is surprising to me how many people get canceled for shit that gets pulled up from their past. And this is something that's just sitting out there for anybody to grab and no one's using it.
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't think that people should be canceled for things that they've said in the past because there is an element of um not appropriateness for the time, but an understanding of the time. It's like when we watch 80s movies now and they like run rampant screaming fag, fag it throughout it. Like we understand that it's the time and it's inappropriate, and as much as we don't like to hear it, it's there, it's part of that film now.
SPEAKER_01I get that.
SPEAKER_00But I think that the responsibility, if any, at this point from a show that was filmed, what, 15 years ago now? 10.
SPEAKER_01Um 15, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It it lies on on the 20. It lies on the producers and the editors. Like they should have known that a statement like that is inappropriate and it doesn't need to be part of this show. Um well here's hard to see.
SPEAKER_01You're absolutely right, and I see all of that, Robert, but my point is is that you just said it. Like producers looked at that and said, you know what? That's okay. Yeah, that's my problem.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01You have a camera pointed at you so that your image and your representation is beamed out to all these millions of viewers. You have a responsibility to not get on camera and say, chicken, chicken, Chinaman. I don't understand how that like the fact that that is okay. Like, if you want to say that in your own house, you want to talk however you want to talk, that's fine. But I guess I'm just tired of seeing these people who have not just bad behavior, but just inherently bad characters be. Rewarded for exploiting that. Yeah. To what purpose makes society worse than where we are right now?
SPEAKER_00You're not the only one who feels that way. I think that's why cancel culture was so rampant so recently.
SPEAKER_01Well, I like what David Letterman said on a recent episode of Smartless, where he said, you know, he was asked if he thinks that people are over like over-cancel culture. And he said, so what? Let's over-cancel everything. What's the worst that could happen? Like, we didn't cancel anything. Let the pendulum swing to the other side, and then it and then we'll find a balance in the middle.
SPEAKER_00But I don't Oh, do we care too much?
SPEAKER_01I don't think you can care too much because this isn't about someone's freedom to think or say whatever they want. It's about these the people in media and the entertainment makers of our society and culture choosing to perpetuate behavior that is detrimental to us as a society and a culture. That's my problem.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't give a fuck about Vicky Gunvelson personally.
SPEAKER_00Especially since she wasn't in the show in the 90s.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, what yeah, I know we digressed, didn't we? But anyway, whatever. It's my podcast. I can talk about whatever the fuck I want.
SPEAKER_00Because it's not yours.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm not trying to be all uh you know we've got issues with half of that. You you do have issues. Yeah. Oh, I that one bugs me. That one bugs me. I'm not gonna tell you which one, but that one fucking bugs me.
SPEAKER_00She'll tell you in a later episode.
SPEAKER_01Well, it was great because they were underage in the 90s, so we didn't have to deal with them. Um, but I love all the quirky little things of the 90s. I like the kudos chocolate-covered granola bars that were really candy bars. I love the koala springs and the clearly Canadian seltzer waters that all had 60 grams of sugar per serving with three and a half servings in a bottle. Frutopia.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there were a lot of those on the heels of Snapple.
SPEAKER_01Squeeze It's remember Squeeze It's just like naming shit off.
SPEAKER_00Do you have a list? Do you have a window open on your no?
SPEAKER_01Because you made me spit my water out on all my notes and my ink ran everywhere. No, because I'm telling you, because my fucking memory is like those goddamn YouTube videos, those retro commercial YouTube videos.
SPEAKER_00I think my favorite thing about the 90s was the introduction of the Nintendo 64.
SPEAKER_01Lauren McCall coffee commercial for high point decaf coffee. Is that the favorite time of day is nighttime, because I love a good, rich cup of coffee. Is that what you're doing? But coffee in the evening, don't mix. Not if it's high point decaffeinated.
SPEAKER_00Babe, if you're memorizing that, you were on TikTok way too often.
SPEAKER_01It's a commercial. Lauren Bacall is not.
SPEAKER_00No, I know what's from. I've just on YouTube, not on uh TikTok. Okay, got it. I thought it was like a sampled audio that was now trending.
SPEAKER_01Oh, well, there is that, but why do you think that I, as a 46-year-old gay man, would have that reference from a millennials recreation of a classic and iconic figure like Lauren Bacall. Like I'm original source, babe. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I know that.
SPEAKER_01But the same reason everyone because I feel like I'm reminding you right now.
SPEAKER_00No, it's the same reason that everyone was all obsessed with running up that hill for a while. Like they weren't alive when the song was there, but it was built popular because of TikTok. Yeah. So great.
SPEAKER_01You know who does do really good music though is Ryan Murphy Minogue. Ryan Murphy. Ryan Murphy is excellent when it comes to producing content with music.
SPEAKER_00It does he do that, or does he have a team that handles the music for him? I imagine then he has input, but I'm wondering who actually selects the music for him.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I imagine he would be like me and he shows up with like a thumb drive or like an iPod and he's like, here's the soundtrack for the season, figure out where these songs go.
SPEAKER_00I would hope so. I think I think he has a really good taste when it comes to that and most things, really. I do like most of the stuff.
SPEAKER_01I think you you do not reach the level of success that one does as fickle as success is, and as much as it's rewarded upon people who probably don't deserve it, you don't reach his level of success without being present and without being hands-on and without being detail-oriented.
SPEAKER_00I I would like that. I picture that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What's your favorite Ryan Murphy's film from the 90s?
SPEAKER_01I don't know that Ryan Murphy was doing anything, but I will say that 90s was amazing for rom-coms like picture perfect. You got mail. Mrs. Win Mrs. Winterborne. I do not like the You Got Mail one. Really? I don't like that sleepless in Seattle kind of rom-com. I like the picture perfect rom-com. Like the truth about cats and dogs up and are you just gonna interrupt me through this whole podcast? Because I can stop talking now and give you the less in three minutes.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01You're just talking about if you're talking. Okay, great. So I think I don't really like the like middle-aged um Frasier-esque rom-coms of the 90s. I like the younger, um, more Gen X, up-and-coming, picture perfect, Jennifer Aniston kind of rom-com. That's me. Great. Yes, great.
SPEAKER_00I didn't really care for them. I think Truth of Cats and Dogs was the only one that I liked.
SPEAKER_01I love The Truth About Cats and Dogs, and The Truth About Cats and Dogs also had a great soundtrack.
SPEAKER_00And I always like Janine Groffalo.
SPEAKER_01Janine Groffalo was great. Ben Chaplin was just so charming in that movie. I think that's the first time we saw him. Um what else in the night? Oh, guy lights. Guy lights.
SPEAKER_00You're talking about hair.
SPEAKER_01Hair, yeah. Like the the really sort of chunky shoe shine kind of highlights that guys were getting um in the 90s, like the Ricky Martin little poof of blonde in the front, the fag handle where all the hair went forward and then right at the forehead went boom straight up with just a handful of gel.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that had a long life. That was that was stuck around for a long time.
SPEAKER_01Some people are still wearing it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Steven had it for like at least until like two years ago. Oh until you started cutting his hair.
SPEAKER_01Steven, end quotes.
SPEAKER_00So, yeah, the 90s. Do I want to go back?
SPEAKER_01I think the 90s were fun. I don't want to go back and relive it, but I'll just enjoy the things that are still.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's some there's some stuff about the 90s that I can still enjoy now, and I'm I'm good with that. 100%. Yeah, I don't need to go back.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's not a question if if you know, can we go back? We can't, right? But these are indelible moments that have made impressions on us and our memories and our journey in this world. And I think as much as we're meant to look forward, we would be remiss if we didn't take those experiences with us along for the journey.
SPEAKER_00I like that.
SPEAKER_01They can't be the goal because you can't go backwards, but you gotta know and recognize where you've been so that you don't travel in a circle trying to find your way back to a place that you can't get back to. So I think reminiscing and I think romanticizing and I think thinking fondly of the past is very healthy because that tells me that in my mind, my representation of that period of my life is a happy one, and I'm okay with that.
SPEAKER_00Nice. I like that too.
SPEAKER_01Thanks. I think so. And until next time, a tuteler.
SPEAKER_00Stay cool all. Totally.
SPEAKER_01T T Y Love. K I T. Have a great summer.
SPEAKER_00Bye. BFF.
