Are You Prepared For When Disaster Strikes?

Just kidding. Everything is fine. Like it usually is...
This week we're talking about Fear-Mongering in the Media. We've all heard it, or seen it, or read it. That little snippet of something intended to alarm us and ensure we "Tune In at 11" for the rest of the story. It's ridiculous, and Nomi's got a lot to say about it.
The latest was this horrible, deadly, tragic, monstrous Hurricane Hilary that went to SoCal. Not only was it just another typical Summer rain for us, but the amount of time and energy that people wasted trying to scare each other in preparation for it was just plain stupid.
Can we just fast-forward a little bit to 2024, have Marianne Williamson come and save us, and our country can stop being stupid and terrible to each other? That would be nice.

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SPEAKER_00 0:16

And we're back.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Hi. Hi. How's it going?

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Uh, it's pretty good, except I heard about this giant dinosaur that's wrecking havoc through the city. News at 11.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

My God. Yeah. Really? Because I just was informed that there's a meteor heading towards us right now as we speak.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Seriously? How big is it?

SPEAKER_01 0:32

I don't know, but it's big enough that you want to run out and get all the toilet paper you can.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Oh, yeah. I need to make sure I don't run out of toilet paper.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Can you guys before anything else? Can you guys guess what today's episode is going to be about? Guess what? Fear mongering in the media.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Yay, it's my favorite. Yay. It's everything about the media.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Because we all operate our best when we have fear constantly instilled with us. Oh no, wait, sorry. We spend money to feel safe when there's fear instilled in us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

That's all I want. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Yeah. So that's today's subject. We are fed up with the news and the media, whether it's a professional journalist, uh, an a news anchor person, or some nitwit on social media creating fear and havoc and fear mongering to create chaos, to send us out, to spend money on shit that we don't need to spend on because we think that that is somehow going to keep us safe.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I I've always felt, even as a kid, it's it's like always been like this. A hundred. My grandparents would sit and watch the news, and I just ask them, like, why are you watching this? It's all bad stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

I think there's a very specific type of person that watches the news.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

It's not fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

It's not fun. And local news, it's irrelevant. Honestly. I don't know. All they're doing is selling advertising dollars. Right. And every time they say, This is gonna happen, you better be prepared for this. It always equates to us feeling like we then have to go out and once again spend money on shit that we don't need to spend money on, because hoarding stuff that we don't need somehow makes us feel safer in this world.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Yeah, I feel like the whole point of their news articles, whatever they are, is to make you feel unsafe and to take action.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Not only that, but every journalist, every news person that is reporting fear-mongering-based information, is not only doing a disservice to the general public, but I think is violating the sanctity and the trust of the journalist layman person relationship.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, or at least the ideals.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah, it's like they want us, they they they manipulate us, but then in doing so lose the greatest power they have with us, which is actual trust.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

So they light the fire, we feed the fire with our own fears and insecurities, they get what we what they want, and we're trying to figure out why in the hell are we still running in this hamster wheel and not getting anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Yeah, that's stupid. I never understood it. I mean, I understood it, but I never I never yeah, it always just sat sat poorly with me.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Well, I think it's the same reason why religions are invented and Ivy League schools and very specific educations that are meant to control, manipulate, gaslight, and ultimately make other people give you their hard-earned money. And I'm over it. And the latest that we've just dealt with, especially you know, here in California, in Southern California, is this stupid hurricane warning that they were telling what is it, like a four category four?

SPEAKER_00 3:50

The hurricane was a category four at one point, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:52

And and so they're saying, and all these stupid people on TikTok are saying, Oh my god, we're gonna get hit with this this like category four hurricane, and this is gonna be devastating. And it's like, shut the fuck up. First of all, anyone that is from California or has spent any amount of time living in California knows we do not get torrential downpours. Yes, we get flooding, we know we get flooding, we know how to handle the flooding, we don't get swept off into the ocean, and the earthquake we had during the quote-unquote hurricane didn't break us off into the Pacific Ocean. So I think the news needs to stop the fear-mongering, and everybody that lives outside of California needs to stop hating on California and let us live our lives because we just don't give a fucking shit.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

So by the time it finally got here, it was quote unquote a tropical storm. Now, I will tell you, it's very rare for us to get rain in the summer. But if I had heard nothing about a hurricane, it never would have crossed my mind that what we were experiencing was even a tropical storm. I would have thought, wow, we're getting a freak day of rain in California.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yeah, it rained all day. And thankfully, we live in a space that isn't prone to flooding, so there was no fear involved on my end, and I know that some people did struggle through it. But I agree with you the fact that it was sold um on media as this horrible, awful, deadly thing that's coming your way, like the murder hornet of storms. It just it's gross. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Well, and when do people decide what to believe about the news? We can tell we can be told that it's gonna be uh 75 degrees and sunny, and we will step outside, and the first thing that we say is, yeah, right, sure, Jan, but yet you are given this horrendously inaccurate description of this approaching quote unquote storm that should be more unbelievable than the weather they try to tell us we're having, and yet everyone's in.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Well, that's why they do it. There's no accountable accountability held to it. No, it's it's like uh with Y2K in the year 2000, everyone was talking about how awful it was going to be and what the potential was, and your computers were gonna freeze up and planes were gonna come crashing down at the stroke of midnight. And all the news perpetuated that. And then it didn't happen, and no one was held accountable, and they're like, oh, just we didn't know that. Sorry, but you can't hold us accountable because we were just giving you the news, we weren't giving you fact.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Well, and look at the actual events that happened. If they were so concerned that the computers were not gonna roll over in 2000 and planes were gonna fall out of the sky, bank accounts were gonna be wiped out, then why the hell were they sending planes up into the air? Because they knew that we would ignore that factual piece of information because the emotional charge we got from that situation somehow satiated a masochistic, inherent desire in human beings to be constantly scared and in fear. And I don't get it. But as long as that's there, they will continue to do what they do to manipulate us through fear. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's too bad. And all of these Jamokes on TikTok who were talking about storm tracking and how devastating this is going to be, as soon as the fucking storm passed, where the hell were they?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Doing something else on TikTok.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Nothing. Because nothing. Nothing. Yeah, because they were all fucking wrong. And not one of them has posted a video that I have seen that has been like, whoopsie. So the fact that people go to social media for what they think would be any kind of reputable information that isn't just like a makeup tutorial or somebody that's trained in a skill set that they're showing you how to do. Why are we so invested in believing it as the truth?

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Because it's easy. They don't have to read.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Or because that's how we were trained from very early on by the media at large to respond to bits of information.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

And then make sure you pass it. You gotta tell someone else about it.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Keep us scared, validate it, keep us, you know, uh chained to the post like a dog in the backyard. And as long as we're in that space, we're not gonna be critically thinking, we're not gonna be empathetic, and we're just going to be or continue to be these cogs in this machine that is really just an institution for slave labor.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

It's control, it's manipulation. And I think the first thing that they knew they had to get rid of in order to create a society that would be this pliable and manipulative was to attack our education system. Because for the last 30, 40 years, our education system has been schlock.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

You're talking about the US specifically.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Yeah. And because it's been schlock, we've just been getting a little dumber. And so we're more easily duped. But with dumbness also comes an increase in ego to compensate for the fact that you know you're a fucking idiot. So you're an idiot, but you can't recognize or admit that you're an idiot because your human ego has grown too large to compensate for the fact that you've got a small fucking brain, or you at the very least, don't know how to use your fucking brain for critical thinking.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Yeah. I I'd be interested to know uh in more educated countries and cultures, how that's throw a dart at a map with your eyes closed and you'll hit one. I know. Uh I'd be interested to know how their news works. I mean, I've seen BBC news and that's more global, but what does something look like in, say, like the French news?

SPEAKER_01 10:01

I'm not sure, but I don't know either. I think the thing that's nice about BBC being global is that it has, I'll say, a mindfulness or an awareness to it because it is a global and transparent platform.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

It is also definitely more informative. They're not about to jump on there and be like, oh, and by the way, look out. There are these things, but we won't tell you. Check back in at 11 o'clock and we'll tell you what's the latest. It's mostly local news. That's that's their big thing. That's the only way that local news people make money is by alarming the people in their community to attention something that is happening or has already happened.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Yeah, it's kind of like everybody wants to make their real life a Michael Bay movie now. Like some massive disaster is approaching, otherwise, we don't know what to do with ourselves. And I think it's because humans at this point in time, with the way that our society and culture has gone, we're not happy if we're happy. We don't trust it because we're told not to trust it. And I think that we really do need to focus on getting back to education, regulation, understanding that free speech is not an all-encompassing thing. We are completely unhinged, the inmates are running the asylum, and it's not getting any better because we keep making the same stupid, ignorant mistakes over and over and over again.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

And I'm tired of it. So I don't know what to do, but I am very excited about Presidential Hopeful, Marianne Williamson, because I think that she is extremely smart. I think that she is for the people. I think that she wants to correct a lot of the wrongs that our institutionalized society has been running on autopilot for or with for so long. I like the fact that she wants to say that Congress members can't trade taxes, there needs to be term limits, um, there needs, you know, get rid of the, I think it's the Willow project in Alaska and use that uh multi-trillion dollar a year project to pay for universal health care for everybody. Um, and and the I think the biggest challenge we're going to have is getting the people to stop voting against their own best interest because that's what's happening right now.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

That's what we do best.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

Yeah, pretty much. I've been I've been staying away from it for the most part just because the election's in a year and a half, and I every time we have one, I'm so exhausted by the time it actually happens that I'm just worn out. But I will say, I have been hearing a lot more about Marianne Williamson uh over the last month or so, and I just really like the things that she has to say. Everything that you outlined, first of all, sounds so profound and yet duh. Like they're so it's simple.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yeah, it's the it's not uh the best solution is normally the most simple solution, but we are working with a very insidious group of people who are making sure that we can't tell one end from another because they're creating such constant chaos. And this is not like Illuminati conspiracy theory bullshit. Like this is this is about bad people who work their way into a position of power which happens at the schoolyard level and then lock the door behind them and continue to use and abuse their power to benefit themselves when what they're really supposed to be doing is making decisions that benefit the greater good.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Well, her messaging and her ideas are simple, but not in the build that wall simple. They're simple in that they're easy for people to understand, they're logical in in the sense of like, how are we gonna get this done? Or what is the idea behind the process? Or yes, this is a big undertaking, but we can do it because here are the steps. It's not just simple for the sake of dumbing things down, it's simple as in hey, you guys listen. No one's happy. So, what can we as a country do to make things better rather than this back and forth Democrat, Republican, good side, bad side, red side, blue side. Like it's none of that. She just happens to be running running on the Democratic ticket, as far as I know at this point. And she just seems to be making sense. She reminds me of the things that Bernie Sanders was saying during his run. Um, but I hope that people may pay more attention to him because he's not, he doesn't look like a crazy old man. But who knows? It's she's a woman, so uh people hate that too. I just I don't know anymore.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Well, I think that what you're saying when you say that her ideas are simple is that they're transparent, they're easy to understand, but once again, we don't trust it because we've been told that we can't trust something that's simple by the people who have a vested interest in keeping us in chaos. We need to wake the fuck up. Bottom line.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

We need to start voting better, we need to start voting smarter, and we need to start educating ourselves if we're ever going to get ourselves out of it. Because here's what it's our job, it's our responsibility. The politicians may be the politicians, but they're only the politicians for as long as we vote them into their office. If we get smarter, which they don't want, we make better decisions in the voting polls, we're less fearful, we're less easily manipulated. But that's not what they want, but that's what we need. And we need to start working together. And like you had mentioned, the political parties. Knock it off. We don't need them. George Washington said we can't have sides because they will fight themselves, no one will check the government, and the government will get too powerful. And lo and behold, our first president, all those years ago, actually knew what he was talking about. That's weird. Well, and how often do you hear that? You would never hear that because we now know our country has a horrible reputation for rewriting history. Why would they put that out there when the first president that everybody says was so great makes a statement that literally would change the way our democracy works?

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Yeah, our country's pretty good at erasing things we don't people we don't want them to remember.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Well, and we have to understand that. And we have to stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater and think that just because we believe somebody is capable of doing something bad doesn't make it a conspiracy theory worth not looking into.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

Who taught you how to vote? Like, did did someone say, hey, let's go through the process so that you know what to do? Yeah. No one gave me that either.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

No, but no one needed to because I grew up at a time where schools were still doing that. Schools were still giving us education. We still took history, we had political science, we learned about the voting system. I didn't have a family member parent that took me under their wing because I also grew up at it in a time and in a house where you didn't discuss who you voted for. It was personal, it was taboo. You don't do that. And I and I respect that. So when I came of age, the first election that I voted in was the Clinton Perot election.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

And my boyfriend at the time that we talked about previously, I think in the sex episode, he was the one that kind of had the conversation with me about this is your first time voting. What do you think? The significance, the significance of it, the meaning between the two candidates and the two parties, and making sure you understand that you don't just vote the line, you've got to actually look at each individual person. And that's how I made my first choice.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

And the voting booth. And and over the years, as I've seen how my vote either works or doesn't work, I've learned that it's extremely important for me to read the candidate's statements myself and form my own opinion rather than being the lazy American that we're bred to be, so that my pastor or my representative or the news can tell me or influence me on how to vote.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Yeah, I don't I don't feel like anyone should be influencing you.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

No one has to tell me what's best for me. No one has to tell anybody what's best for them. If we stop listening to other people telling us that we don't know it, then we'll actually recognize that we do know it. But once again, they don't want us to know what we know because then they lose their power.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

And then they lose their money.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

And the fear is gone. And once the fear is gone, then that revenue stream starts to dry up. And it's gotten to the point where, from where I'm sitting, it's comical how they keep coming up with things to scare us on a regular basis. And we want to know why isn't the economy getting better? Why, three years after COVID, did we go to Target and there was no fucking toilet paper on the shelf? Because of a storm. Like, are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Because no one's learning their lesson.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

But why should we, when we are led to believe that the way that we were trained to do things in this country is the best way to do them because we go into everybody else's fucking front door and tell them how to live their lives and operate their house.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Right. Well, you and I went out the night before it was supposed to hit the big one, and we're like, okay, well, what can we get at the market that should worst case scenario happen and the lights go out or the electricity's off or something, or we can't cook on the stove or something, what do we get? So we just got some basics.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

We got what we needed for the day. Yeah, but we didn't so that we didn't have to go out that day if we didn't want to.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

And and we didn't put any pressure on like door drash delivery drivers or anything like that. We just got what we needed, and it we didn't stock up our cellar or anything like that. We're just like, this is the basics that we need for a day. If if you were at home for the day, what would you need so that you wouldn't have to go back outside?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

We had our patio door open and we just threw a bath towel on over the little step thing inside the house because the gutter was splashing water. And like it just it was so not what they made it out to be. And a lot of us natives knew it. I mean, yeah, I'm 46 years old, I'm a native to Los Angeles. Like, this is not something that we really worry about.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

So, who do we tell? Like, when this happens again next year, because it probably will. I'm sure they sold a lot of like viewership on the news this year talking about the hurricane and whatever on NBC.com and all that. What do we do? How do how do we say, okay, we know you're saying hurricane again, but you need to shut up because you said it last time and nothing happened. So I'm kind of sick of this.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Well, I think that if we vote for regulation so that they can't put chemtrails into the sky, I think that's a start. Because chemtrails don't create weather, but if there's already a weather pattern in the sky, you can release chemicals into the sky that exacerbate whatever's going on in that weather pattern at the moment. And this is again, this is not conspiracy theory, twilight zone time. This is science, this is physics, this is chemicals. Everything on this planet is made up of compounds and chemicals. So why would they not be affected by one another?

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

They've they, quote unquote, whoever they are, because we're talking about multiple institutions, have figured it out and they're using it to their advantage.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

And I've watched videos of planes being loaded with these chemicals, flown up into the sky, and then have those chemicals released for a reaction, and you see the clouds start to just get ramped up. It's it's fascinating. And I think it could be used for something. Good, like our drought, our our our drought, our fear-mongering, unquantifiable drought perpetual color. Yes. Yes. Like if we're really in that dire of a situation, then why don't we get rid of our almond orchards? Because they may be a big crop for California, but they're also the most expensive thing that we've got. They take up about 80% of our water. 20% of the water is consumer consumption in this state. Yet we're constantly being told that we have to conserve water. Right. The almond orchards are also responsible for the bee colony collapse in 2008 because they're not using insects to manage other insects and create a safe ecosystem. They're using pesticides. So let's cut the shit and get crucial for a second. Everything that we think we know is fucked up. And the longer it goes on, the more fucked up and convoluted it becomes. So I'm screaming for transparency. If we'll actually get it, I don't know, but I think Marianne Williamson would be a good start. And then I think that our entire media system needs an enema. You gotta flush out the shit that's floating in the toilet right now so that we can actually get down to brass tacks and what the media is supposed to do in the way that it has been sold to us. Otherwise, it's not media, they're not journalists, it's entertainment and they're commentators. Like Fox News.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah. You're right. I don't want to be defeatist, but I don't see it changing at all. I think it's just because people have way too many opportunities to make money with the way that things are, both on the internet and on TV, as far as news goes and articles and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Well, and everyone's a fucking liar these days.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Well, yeah, you can say whatever you want because no one's going to fact-check you. And when they do, you're just like, oh, sorry. And then you move on and do something else stupid and terrible.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Yep. You can say whatever you want. You can slap a filter on your face. You can use that new body slimming AI technology that everyone claims they're using just for motivation to see how they look skinny. And then six months, you know they're going to be fucking 20, 30 pounds heavier. And I say that as somebody who's been down that road. So I'm only calling out people that are like myself. It's bullshit. It's dumb. And you know what? There's no, there's nothing wrong with saying I just want to see how I would look, but I don't think I have what it takes to be like that, or my body can't be like that. Being healthy and being fit has nothing to do with how you look.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Yeah. So I would I would say it may knock it off. Yeah. It might be something where uh the general public over time tells people that we're no longer interested. And so it's not a viable uh platform like MySpace or Facebook. Um but even but even that, it's I mean, what is that gonna do? Like I I haven't been on Instagram in almost a month now, but nothing's changed, it's all still there. I'm not doing it with the hope that it's gonna shut down, but I just don't care to see it anymore because it was just driving me crazy.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Well, now at this point in time, I even wonder if MySpace legitimately went down. The whole thing that I think brought MySpace down was the Prop 8 scandal around it. But how do we even know that that was going on? Now I wonder it was shit. Were we just sold this damaged bill of goods by another team that wanted us to believe that my I mean, look at what Zuckerberg has done with Facebook since he got control of the market. You don't think that he had resources to gain that control of the market? Yeah, probably. He's an insidious bastard from the start. You don't become that, you acquire things that allow you to become more of who you really are.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Well, and social media use is cyclical in the sense that people want whatever's new and exciting, and then the hope is to maintain those users. So when something comes around like threads with the hope of taking people away from Twitter or whatever the next thing is after Instagram, like that they tried to be TikTok with reels, that didn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Now they're trying to be uh Twitter or Twatter or Twitter or whatever the fuck it is with threads.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Yeah, and and it's cyclical, so whatever comes up, people will be excited about it and they'll sign up and then they'll see whether or not it's something that's new that they'll be excited to be on. TikTok came out of nowhere and really gained following during the pandemic, but before that it was it was around for maybe like a year or two and no one really paid attention to it.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

But now it's this viable selling platform. So every time a new one pops up, like TikTok, another one falls off the page, like Facebook. And it's just there's always going to be two to three of them that just kind of rotate around, and then we move on to the next one and drop off the old one.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Well, and I think we need those like two to three too, because you've you need a platform for a different type of person. There's a very specific person that sounds off on Twitter. There's a very specific person that creates chaos and hatred on Facebook, there's a very specific person that trolls Instagram.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

So you've got these different platforms, and I think that you've got like three or four basic major groups or types of people that fall into categories that the the three major platforms provide. And then you have all the ancillary platforms for like the fringe people, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

But it's still just it's it's it's an it's a it's a piece of media, so that means that it is a divisive tool meant to separate you from your money.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

And can be used as such, because we sign an agreement in order to be able to be on the app anyway.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Well, regardless of what agreement we sell, we're too stupid to fucking realize it when it's happening to us because we don't want to. Many people are we want that hit, we we want that mainline into our artery, we want that dopamine rush. So don't fuck with my addiction because I'm not gonna believe a word you say if it means I don't get to feel the way that I want to feel with that substance, which is what social media is. It has the same chemical reaction in our brain as an actual drug.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

Yeah. So I don't need that.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

You gotta learn, you have to learn how to control it. And I have a I have a very ebb and flow relationship with social media. Sometimes I'm on it a lot, and sometimes I just I don't even give a shit. And the the thing that I'm proud of is that yesterday, not technically, but and figuratively, yesterday I was not the one that was calling the shots. Today, I'm the one calling the shots. I decide what I want to see, I decide when I want to go on, and I decide when I want to post. And that's all based on how I'm feeling and what's motivating me in my real life at that time that I think I want to put out for people who are interested in what I have to offer or contribute.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

But most people are just jacked into their phone. I mean, you and I saw it today. Two people today, one almost just walked right out in front of me in the middle of the street because she was on her fucking phone. She stepped off the curb and into the street without even looking up from her fucking phone. Yeah, I really. And she wasn't on her, she didn't have her headphones in. So, and I don't have an electric car. We've got a big monster engine of a car, so you know we're coming down the road. And she just couldn't be bothered. It's like everyone thinks that everybody has to look out for them so that they don't have to look out for themselves.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

No, we've seen it. We've seen people walk into potholes and manholes and stuff on their phones and stuff. It's just it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

And blame somebody else because they weren't fucking paying attention. And that's why we're in the place that we're in, and that's why we're so easily ramped up with this fear-mongering bullshit from this joke of an institution that we call media in this country.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Dumb.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Dumb dum dum dumb. And on that note, I'm out. Okay. Thanks, guys. Bye. Bye.